In any case, I do believe that these different "context personality hubs" should be treated differently from one another in casual interaction that does not require assignment of responsibility/consequences, regardless of which one of these you define as a "person".(edited)
Hmm, I can see that. I think I have maybe an additional element, or maybe not. I do think there's something fundamental to the thing orchestrating the whole. The part that ultimately is responsible for deciding things like switching or what personality to use when. Or maybe, the abstract entity that would be assigned to explain what is responsible ultimately for decision making, even if it does happen through the filter of personalities and perception and biases.
I will also point out that the "context personality hub" viewpoint doesn't really account for tulpas and hosts interacting with each other, and not being able to automatically predict precisely what the other would do in the same situation.(edited)
10:38 PM
Especially as switching is typically considered to be done as a mutual agreement between the tulpa(s) and host.
10:39 PM
So, that isn't precisely what I believe - but it is certainly the model I would use when explaining why tulpas and hosts should be treated as different given they are possible to differentiate clearly.
I have only recently started thinking about that more. It does actually seem like the host and the tulpa are masks for something more primitive to have an expression and normal socialization outwardly. The mask analogy is one I like because it does explain in a good sense what can be seen as the "difference" between host and tulpa.
10:41 PM
Plenty of hosts interact or talk to themselves and answer them. I'd believe that behavior extends to this situation, but it just allows the simulation of such communication between different "masks" by convenience of the structure of one's internal beliefs on the separation of personalities.
This is why I sincerely believe a system from the tulpa community does not have that many fundamental differences from an average "singlet". In fact, the only real one I can think of comes from the existence of a community that socially reinforces separation of identity by treating people separately regardless of what body they share. This allows a person to fully generate the behaviors of vastly different identities without drawing questions or inquiries if they lack the confidence or the public history of diverse behavior to do so in the physical world.
10:46 PM
And that sort of makes the background for why I have the feeling that Harley and I are in mostly complete agreement of how people should be treated. I have yet to know if there's any real disagreement between us now, but perhaps something exists that I don't know about.
Oh, as well as agreement on the fundamental substructure of how tulpas work, I think. The conversation on that sort of topic is intense and rather difficult due to the language it takes place under, but just about every time it seems that we have come to the same conclusion although we did so independently.
10:48 PM
Reguile: I think you can find a distinction in very many manners. However, it doesn't defeat the possibility of one "acting" as the other or even the possibility of a single identity pretending to be a doublet.
10:49 PM
Is that what you mean by honor system? Like, as a sort of understanding that yes, any actor of sufficient quality can produce this result?
Basically, ive been forcing Craig for a few weeks now. He had been a tulpa for up to a year, before being disipated for a few months and then recently tried to be brought back (a few weeks ago)
software is a billion dollar industry with a ton of work behind it, it is fleeting and easy to change, but by no means is it easy or "a toss away throw away effort". I kind of think of it that way now, in regards to tulpa.
Yeah, very understandable. You think it may be related to that your tulpa isn't well developed so you have their "age" sort of mental-matching what you think about their development?
Visual "age" of a tulpa is entirely self-decided rather than being decided by time or any other factors. If he wants to make his perceived mental age match the form, there isn't much more to particularly say about it.
Its really just odd, since i havent seen any other stories of people having their tulpas suddenly change their age based on their development, you know?