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In any case, I do believe that these different "context personality hubs" should be treated differently from one another in casual interaction that does not require assignment of responsibility/consequences, regardless of which one of these you define as a "person". (edited)
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Hmm, I can see that. I think I have maybe an additional element, or maybe not. I do think there's something fundamental to the thing orchestrating the whole. The part that ultimately is responsible for deciding things like switching or what personality to use when. Or maybe, the abstract entity that would be assigned to explain what is responsible ultimately for decision making, even if it does happen through the filter of personalities and perception and biases.
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I will also point out that the "context personality hub" viewpoint doesn't really account for tulpas and hosts interacting with each other, and not being able to automatically predict precisely what the other would do in the same situation. (edited)
10:38 PM
Especially as switching is typically considered to be done as a mutual agreement between the tulpa(s) and host.
10:39 PM
So, that isn't precisely what I believe - but it is certainly the model I would use when explaining why tulpas and hosts should be treated as different given they are possible to differentiate clearly.
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I have only recently started thinking about that more. It does actually seem like the host and the tulpa are masks for something more primitive to have an expression and normal socialization outwardly. The mask analogy is one I like because it does explain in a good sense what can be seen as the "difference" between host and tulpa.
10:41 PM
Plenty of hosts interact or talk to themselves and answer them. I'd believe that behavior extends to this situation, but it just allows the simulation of such communication between different "masks" by convenience of the structure of one's internal beliefs on the separation of personalities.
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Hmm. That is also true.
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This is why I sincerely believe a system from the tulpa community does not have that many fundamental differences from an average "singlet". In fact, the only real one I can think of comes from the existence of a community that socially reinforces separation of identity by treating people separately regardless of what body they share. This allows a person to fully generate the behaviors of vastly different identities without drawing questions or inquiries if they lack the confidence or the public history of diverse behavior to do so in the physical world.
10:46 PM
And that sort of makes the background for why I have the feeling that Harley and I are in mostly complete agreement of how people should be treated. I have yet to know if there's any real disagreement between us now, but perhaps something exists that I don't know about.
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Even functionally, we do not have a strong way to distinguish a tulpa from a host beyond anything but the honor system
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Oh, as well as agreement on the fundamental substructure of how tulpas work, I think. The conversation on that sort of topic is intense and rather difficult due to the language it takes place under, but just about every time it seems that we have come to the same conclusion although we did so independently.
10:48 PM
Reguile: I think you can find a distinction in very many manners. However, it doesn't defeat the possibility of one "acting" as the other or even the possibility of a single identity pretending to be a doublet.
10:49 PM
Is that what you mean by honor system? Like, as a sort of understanding that yes, any actor of sufficient quality can produce this result?
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I was going to reply, but I am far too busy to rrad all of this and form a response.
10:50 PM
Apologies.
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I wish I could have explained it in fewer words, but this topic in particular feels impossible for me to discuss in any brevity. No need to apologize.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:14 AM
I wanted to ask a question
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go ahead
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:15 AM
what was the funniest thing that you did with your tulpa?
7:16 AM
like, I want to hear all sorts of funny moments of living with tulpas
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Eating food is fun. Sometimes, she tries to just snatch it from me.
7:20 AM
The funny part is when I proceed to eat the food without even pausing to look, as if saying "u wot m8"
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[Ranger is a goof ball. He likes to say silly things and it makes me laugh]
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[I remember when I would try not to fall asleep in my Calculus class and Ranger would immitate what my professor was doing]
7:28 AM
[Alright, 3:30 is unfortunately my limit. Good night every one]
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good night
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[and Just to point it out- I love math but school and math is hard.]
7:30 AM
Good night everyone! Extra hugs!
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school can be a bit tedious, it's actually pretty amazing what you can do with math
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[school is just hard for me. I failed my Calc 3 class and plan on taking it again.]
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Good night Ranger and kitty
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Good night!
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Goofball tulpas are best tulpas
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 12:54 PM
Hello
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Hello and good morning. Would you happen to be looking to ask or discuss something about tulpa? (edited)
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Yes they are.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 3:14 PM
hello, other thoughtforms!
3:15 PM
I'm back
3:15 PM
had to cram for history and stuff
3:15 PM
@Tulpabug!
3:15 PM
hugs
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ack
3:16 PM
returns hug
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You may want to head into lounge or cafe, but good morning.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 3:16 PM
oh, I forgot about that
3:16 PM
yee
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:41 PM
I dont know if i should post this in Beginners or Tulpa-Discussion, so ill post it to here for now (unless asked to move)
7:41 PM
Has anyone experienced a tulpa’s age regressing
7:41 PM
Like one day, they suddenly become younger than what age they were before
7:41 PM
Age being defined as like
7:42 PM
Not physically when they were first created, but how they want to be perceived as (I think)
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In terms of form, or as a whole?
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:42 PM
My tulpa just grew a lot younger, so it freaked me out for a bit
7:43 PM
Form pretty much? And voice
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Some people enjoy "age play", as it is called.
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Form and voice changes like that aren't uncommon
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People do this entirely unrelated to tulpas as well.
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I don't know specifically about age, but I'm sure it's not unheard of.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:43 PM
Age play?
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Yes. Pretending to be a different age for personal satisfaction.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:43 PM
Is that specifically related to tulpas or just another connected thing
7:43 PM
Ahh, odd
7:44 PM
But i wont judge peoples hobbies
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...not specifically related to tulpas, but it sounds exactly like what you described with a tulpa wanting to be treated as a younger age.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:44 PM
True, hmm
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I believe it is less a want and more a sudden occurence
7:44 PM
if I assumed correctly?
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I don't particularly recommend looking it up unless you want to find some very... very weird pictures on the internet.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:45 PM
I want to explain the situation, but i feel like itll just sound like im imagining it all (if that makes sense)
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Yeah it was a sudden occurencd
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At first i brushed it off as a long intrusive thought
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But the next day it was still going on
7:45 PM
Lemme explain, to make things clearer
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I used to do a lot of saying it was all imaginary, but I think it is really something that can just happen depending on the person, so probably not.
7:46 PM
Like, saying it's all imaginary is like saying your broken computer is "just software"
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:47 PM
Basically, ive been forcing Craig for a few weeks now. He had been a tulpa for up to a year, before being disipated for a few months and then recently tried to be brought back (a few weeks ago)
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software is a billion dollar industry with a ton of work behind it, it is fleeting and easy to change, but by no means is it easy or "a toss away throw away effort". I kind of think of it that way now, in regards to tulpa.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:47 PM
Only recently did he finally start to speak again, but hes now a lot lot younger
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By a lot younger, he used to be 20, now he’s 9
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You can see how it freaked me out at first a bit
7:47 PM
Really big change
7:48 PM
The next day, he moved up to 13 years old
7:48 PM
So i tried talking to him about it
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Yeah, very understandable. You think it may be related to that your tulpa isn't well developed so you have their "age" sort of mental-matching what you think about their development?
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:48 PM
If he was going to become an adult again (since having a child tulpa when I’m almost 18 is a bit odd)
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YEAH
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*Yeah
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I think thats exactly it
7:49 PM
Because when i was talking to him
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I asked him if the reason why he was a lot younger now than before is because hes now just starting to develop again
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And he replied with a vague “perhaps”
7:50 PM
And basically i think we came to terms that he would start aging again the more i force him
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Visual "age" of a tulpa is entirely self-decided rather than being decided by time or any other factors. If he wants to make his perceived mental age match the form, there isn't much more to particularly say about it.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:50 PM
Its just still odd, and im not sure if my imagination is fooling with me or not
7:50 PM
Ahh okay
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Well. From my perspective, at least.
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Deleted User 6/9/2018 7:51 PM
Its really just odd, since i havent seen any other stories of people having their tulpas suddenly change their age based on their development, you know?
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Other tulpas frequently change their form based on desires, particularly early in development.
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